Stinson Beach Music Scene Time Line: 1960s to the Present

The site above was just brought to my attention. I can’t find an email for anyone in the organization based on a cursory search, so I thought I post some reactions here.

The prompt for all of this is the newly digitized source for the OAITW gig at the Stinson Community Center on September 30, 1973, same source tape as an older source I have sketchily blogged. I haven’t had time to look back at this in detail, but I also want to pin Corry’s post on an early OAITW gig at a Stinson Beach bar.

The point of this post is to post some corrections and ask some questions about entries in the Stinson Historical Society page that heads the post. If anyone knows any of the principals and wishes to draw their attention to the corrections, they might be interested.

“Blows Against the Empire” and “Mexico” (1969) – Jefferson Airplane

Recordings for BATE started in July 1970, just to be clear. Not sure what the Stinson connection is supposed to be here.

1970 – Peter Rowan moves to Stinson Beach from Mill Valley, where he had been playing in bands such as Seatrain and Earth Opera. Also recently been spending time playing with bluegrass legend Bill Monroe. He moves into a house on Calle del Ribera and pays $100/month in rent. He ends up writing one song inspired by Stinson Beach: “Riding the Rainbow in the Sky,” which was never released on a record.

The liner notes to Breakdown say PR arrived in Stinson Beach in October 1972.

8/27/71 – Jerry Garcia and others play at the club known as “The Red Whale,” which is located where the current Stinson Beach Water County District is located on Highway One just past the turn off for Calle del Arroyo. It would later be renovated and renamed “The Brigg.” Still later, it would be renovated again and renamed the “Over the Hill Bar and Grill.”

Mmmmm, a specific date which I don’t have. I would love to know the source of this information! In the meantime, I will add it to my spreadsheet. I am presuming this would be the NRPS warming up earlier in the day before gigging at the Longbranch this night, but of course I can’t be sure.

One rumor has it that the only time Jerry Garcia met John Lennon was during this time period in Stinson Beach.

Sounds familiar, but I will pin this possible crossing here.

Autumn 1972 – Jerry Garcia & David Grisman play bluegrass music several times, with Jerry practicing his banjo whenever he can after they bumped into each other at Ed’s Superette as Garcia was buying cigarettes.

I thought the story of their hooking back up in Stinson was that Pete Rowan walked Dawg (or vice versa) up the hill to Garcia’s. This doesn’t rule out that they bumped into each other at Ed’s Superette, of course.

January 1973 – … After playing at “Avila’s Barn,” Jerry Garcia names David Grisman “Dawg” after he saw dog following Grisman on the beach at Stinson.

Avila’s Barn doesn’t ring a bell to me, though I bet that if I check Corry’s “unknown bar” post it’s mentioned there. update: I think the name is not “Avila” but Avella – so, Avella’s Barn. I have changed it in my tag.

1973 [sic] – Goldie Rush starts Round Records above Ed’s Superette in 1973

First, the name “Goldie Rush” was new to me, and it shouldn’t be, because apparently she was heavily involved in Round Records. Second, though, 1973 is too early, at least for “starts” in any formally institutionalized sense. Round Records was incorporated in the state of California on January 22, 1974.

1977 [sic] – David Jenkins (guitar) and Cory Lerois (keyboards) move to Stinson Beach, both members of the band Pablo Cruise. Lerois buys Mountain Girl/Jerry Garcia’s old house, and does a major remodel.

No. This was early 1978.

1979/1980 – The band “The Edge” is formed by Lorin Rowan, Mark Stein, Jim Dillon, Keith Glanz and Ozzie Ahleve [sic]

Correction: last fellow’s name is Ozzie Ahlers.

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runonguinness

May 26, 2018

Do we know for sure if those August '71 Longbranch Saloon NRPS shows went ahead? Jerry was at Gaelic Park for the rescheduled Dead show on the 26th. If he made it home the next day it seems a bit tight to fit in a Red Whale afternoon session with NRPS before that evenings Longbranch show. If the Longbranch run was cancelled because of Jerry's non-availability that would make the Red Whale appearance (assuming it is correct) more understandable.

Fate Music

May 26, 2018

No idea, but your reasoning seems very sound.

raile

May 27, 2018

John Lennon and Yoko Ono spent most of June, July and August of 1972 in San Francisco, so there is a small possibility that John met Jerry then. However, considering all of the chatter (from Merl, et al) about the confirmed meeting at the Bottom Line in November of 1974, I find it pretty unlikely that they met at any time before then.

Fate Music

May 27, 2018

Scott, thanks for weighing in. July-August 1972 was a very quiet time for Jer, and it could very well have happened, but your hunch sounds reasonable.

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Stinson Beach Music Scene Time Line: 1960s to the Present

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