Garcia interview ca. August 1974 WPLJ


Just some sketchy notes.


Garcia, Jerry, 1942-1995, “Jerry
Garcia interview. Broadcast on WPLJ in New York City in September 1974 [radio
broadcast],” Grateful Dead Archive Online,
accessed November 10, 2013, http://www.gdao.org/items/show/379907.

28:58
JGMF they
say at the end that between the interview and airing the GD announced the
hiatus. They are talking about Nixon still president. He resigned August 9.
Garcia mentions having recently played with Locomotiv GT, which was July 12-13,
1974. The GD played Hartford on 7/31, Philly on 8/4 and 8/5, and Roosevelt
Stadium in Jersey City on August 6 (rescheduled from 8/2 for reasons that
aren’t clear to me). It could be anywhere in this timeframe. I’ll label it 8/xx/74.
dead air,
weirdness 0:24
0025 early
days — we’ve never conceived it anyway a plan or a plot or anything remotely
resembling that degree of organization. Just sort of happened.
0300 now we
represent psychedelic nostalgia
0337
rejection of a central philosophical view point. We’re all totally separate
views of reality and how to fit into it. We’re all completely mad in terms of
our private hallucinations regarding reality.
Our main
thing is just don’t lay your trip too heavy on somebody if they don’t want to
hear it 0400
0415 cuts in
on a question, do you remember where you were
0428 have as
much fun? World is a scarier place than it used to be. Moratorium on fun
because everything is so strikingly weird
0445 GD as
benefit band, people’s band. doing benefits not a good way for us to benefit
somebody. Information.
0535
political confrontations
0551
“We have the basic distrust of all political happenings”
0609 JG on
Revolution – unclear
0640 that’s
what happening, Revolution is, but I don’t think it’s been too well defined. A
revolution that everybody could totally dig.
0717 mention
of Locomotiv GT (JG: “Yeah, we’ve played, ‘played a gig with ’em not too
long ago”)
0747 the
global person
0805 it’s
just goin’ too slow
ca. 0810 The
point when everybody’s into something, that’d be perfect.
0924 radio I
don’t listen to enough to have an opinion. Hear it in my car. Same old rap far
out people working at the station then the guy who owns the station. 1000 all
these trips … those are the limits
1015 it
always is a compromise, and all you have to say is, ‘that’s what you’ve gotta
do to do it’. It’s unalterable – don’t do it or else try to score your own
radio station.
1030 twitchy
about this place this role too aware of the limits
1050 when
you’re playing and the band is improvising well, can you put it into words. JG
If you’ve ever done anything with a group of people any team sport or people
you can rap with you get into a hot session and everybody is very fast and
everything is smooth. it’s like freedom you step out of a cab and the elevator
is right there. That thing of being synchronous. It’s a get-off.
1155 lame
voice over about improvisation … magic
1238 how
often “It” happens. Always left this door open where we could fail.
1309 our
level of professionalism together enough where we can play pretty well no
matter what’s happening. 1329 Anything that works, you have to discard it. You
can’t let it become a formula.
1336
thumbing through an infinite deck of cards.
1408 talking
about other people .. why not working for the Airplane … 1418 because
everybody’s different. We were never into scoring big. We were into getting
along. I don’t know why. Making the basic assumption that everybody was
departing from the same point. 1505 we all knew each other from working
coffeehouses … in that space we were all pretty equal. Whoever was succeeding
went along with whatever their program was … 1536 reflection on the way the
music business is set up
1545 what
possibilities do you have? Once succeeded, no place to go from there. That’s
the real reason for ‘why bother’ because performing gets to be really a hassle
… the things that are meaningful get smaller and smaller and farther and
farther away … luxury furniture … success … as much stuff as you want. That’s
who you are. You’ve won the game.
1645 scene
backstage managers and all that … better onstage
1705 people
don’t survive it. It kills people. I didn’t have to see too many people go
through that to realize it was really not happening. It ain’t healthy. You have
to be ready to try to provide your own excuse for continuing what you’re doing.
1751 It’s
like a one-way street. After that you have to invent your own model.
1815 Q what
was Pigpen like?
1837 he was
very quiet, he was real shy, which is the reason he drank. He was charming and
funny in a real .. he had a real pixie sense of humor. He was a good guy.
1857 Q say
something unedited to Nixon
JG oh man
thanks for taking on all that worry. Glad I don’t have to do it. That poor guy
has got the world’s worst possible situation. Every morning he wakes up with
what must be a sense of total responsibility about everything in America … plus
he’s blowing it, horribly. I feel for the poor guy, y’know. The scale of
failure that it represents. The capper is that he’s probably taking the whole
system down with him. 2030 funny
2032 music
of the 60s vehicle for a new thought … 2109 music is ok it’s a get-off when
it’s good. It doesn’t contain any consequences. You can trust it. It’s not
gonna hurt anybody.  The big void juice
out of political scenes there’s an attempt for that energy to refind itself,
center itself. Countless amounts of weird information.
2200 GD [they
sound high now]
2231 we’re
not trying to be right, and we’re not trying to tell anybody anything. But we
are into stirring up any activity that we can. Shotgun approach. Contains
randomness. So hard to do something on the level of language etc. that doesn’t
have a trap … put out things that are trapless. We don’t have any confidence in
statements. How can you believe words, no matter how neat they sound?
2335 what is
happening with GD on a chemical level at this point? What is your intake? JG I
smoke pot, take a little acid. I don’t … I am not … I don’t think that you can
maintain some kind of discipline and get too far into drugs. I mean really,
really far into ’em. Smoking pot is just cool. I think that’s good. I think
that would be good no matter what you were doing 2355 I think it’s basically
harmless, and good for you, probably, if anything. I don’t really know, though.
The drug thing is just beside the point, you know? Everybody knows that America
is totally into drugs. Every straight person that you see wandering around is
taking three Valiums a day or something. Everybody’s into some drug, chemicals
… it’s a human thing, that’s all. Economics alone will always provide a
flattening out place. … As soon as everybody in the world wants to *clears
throat* get into smack, y’know, there’s no smack, so it’s not smack anymore,
it’s methadone, and then it’s not methadone anymore, it’s … y’know, all these different
trips. I feel on a level of telling people what to do, I want to be a citizen,
y’know, I don’t want to be a politician. I don’t wanna be tellin’ nobody
nothin’. ’cause I don’t want anybody tellin’ me nothin’; 2454 that’s what it
comes from … basic anti-authoritarianism.
2508 could
be edited down to say “Kids, don’t take smack.” laughing
2517 do
whatever you want with it [the tape? drugs?]. I don’t have any active
opposition to it, but I just don’t feel that that’s the right thing for me to
do. 2522
2538 Q
people start treating rock stars like people frailties too certain people
expect perfection
2619 JG
That’s how hungry the world is for good times. Let’s face it, it’s grim. … 2632
like a bad joke … any get-off I can understand all that. It would be nice if
there was some way for music to be incorporated into people’s lives that wasn’t
so strictly commercial.
2700 who
wants the mystique Q
2715 whoever
wants it will have it no matter what anybody does or says. I would rather be
judged on music. Fame is pointless to anybody who’s an artist. It’s just
something weird you have to deal with. It’d be nice if we could find a cool way
to deal with it.
2745 music
wants to maintain another role in society. The GD is in that situation, we
don’t know what we want do to 2758 until we’ve scored everything. Eventually
we’ll stop what we’re doing and try to figure out what we want to do. That’d be
far out.
Between
interview and air the GD have announced their decision to take some time off …
do what Garcia just said, look around, re-evaluate. -2846

 


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4 responses to “Garcia interview ca. August 1974 WPLJ”

  1. Jesse Avatar

    Thanks for these notes. Some nice little nuggets in here.

  2. Fate Music Avatar

    Sure! There are four or five more at GDAO that I have flagged for myself.

  3. Anonymous Avatar
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    Thanks, really cool. Pretty weird about the smack comments, considering that (according to Rock) it would only be another month or so until the China White entered the scene. A lot of similar feelings reading "Signpost to New Space" – lost pinnacles of perfection.

  4. Anonymous Avatar
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    "We're all completely mad in terms of our private hallucinations regarding reality."

    My new favorite quote. Excellent!

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