Goodman, Fred. 1989. Jerry Garcia: The Rolling Stone
Interview. Rolling Stone no. 566
(November 30, 1989): 66-68, 73-74, 118
Interview. Rolling Stone no. 566
(November 30, 1989): 66-68, 73-74, 118
Garcia says he has “vacillated furiously” over the years as
to whether he wanted to stay with the Dead or not (Goodman 1989, 68).
to whether he wanted to stay with the Dead or not (Goodman 1989, 68).
“The most cogent example of how my life is changing is that
when the GD wasn’t working, I used to go play in bars. Low profile, not many
people were interested. Now this has escalated along with everything else. And
the stress level has skyrocketed” (Goodman 1989, 68). JGMF: This is one way of understanding the arc of Garcia’s solo career. Garcia had the Midas Touch, and
when even his bar band started playing Madison Square Garden (11/15/91), the
bullshit quotient is moving into the red. That said, I am coming around to the idea that maybe it wasn’t as bad as all that, that it remained a refuge until the end.
when the GD wasn’t working, I used to go play in bars. Low profile, not many
people were interested. Now this has escalated along with everything else. And
the stress level has skyrocketed” (Goodman 1989, 68). JGMF: This is one way of understanding the arc of Garcia’s solo career. Garcia had the Midas Touch, and
when even his bar band started playing Madison Square Garden (11/15/91), the
bullshit quotient is moving into the red. That said, I am coming around to the idea that maybe it wasn’t as bad as all that, that it remained a refuge until the end.
Here he advocates drug legalization. “Accept the reality
that people do want to change their consciousness, and make an effort to make
safer, healthier drugs. When you take the greed out of it, all of the damage
starts to fall away” (Goodman 1989, 68)
that people do want to change their consciousness, and make an effort to make
safer, healthier drugs. When you take the greed out of it, all of the damage
starts to fall away” (Goodman 1989, 68)
Says of JA “they’re all so amazingly argumentative”, notes
that “sometimes it’s the chemistry that makes you fight and that makes the
music good” (Goodman 1989, 68). Could be said about the GD.
that “sometimes it’s the chemistry that makes you fight and that makes the
music good” (Goodman 1989, 68). Could be said about the GD.
“I can call up Kantner any time. And certainly Grace [Slick]
was very helpful when I was going through my drug trips” (Goodman 1989, 68).
Also mentions how much he loves Pete Townshend.
was very helpful when I was going through my drug trips” (Goodman 1989, 68).
Also mentions how much he loves Pete Townshend.
“What the Acid Test really was was formlessness. It’s like
the study of chaos. It may be that you have to destroy forms or ignore them in
order to see other levels of organization” (Goodman 1989, 73).
the study of chaos. It may be that you have to destroy forms or ignore them in
order to see other levels of organization” (Goodman 1989, 73).
#politics Garcia didn’t vote. “choosing for the lesser of
two evils is still choosing evil” (Goodman 1989, 73).
two evils is still choosing evil” (Goodman 1989, 73).
Visual art: “I think of notes as objects that have
perspective. They have the front part of them and the back part of them, the
attack and the release. To me, it’s very visual. If I had the time, I would
illustrate all my solos. I could do it – I have seen them that way (Goodman
1989, 74).
perspective. They have the front part of them and the back part of them, the
attack and the release. To me, it’s very visual. If I had the time, I would
illustrate all my solos. I could do it – I have seen them that way (Goodman
1989, 74).
“The members of the GD really have a complex relationship.
At this point it’s gone beyond even blood. The GD has been the most intimate
kind of relationship I’ve ever experienced” (Goodman 1989, 74).
At this point it’s gone beyond even blood. The GD has been the most intimate
kind of relationship I’ve ever experienced” (Goodman 1989, 74).
“I spent a good long time trying a drug world that was
pretty closed” (Goodman 1989, 74).
pretty closed” (Goodman 1989, 74).
Q: why did that happen? “It’s just wear and tear more than
anything else. It’s kind of like I needed a rest. … I stopped because I care
more about the GD than I do about myself, ultimately” (Goodman 1989, 74).
anything else. It’s kind of like I needed a rest. … I stopped because I care
more about the GD than I do about myself, ultimately” (Goodman 1989, 74).
“The Grateful Dead has become the focus of all of our
lives, even though we have families and children. The GD – that’s the
center” (Garcia ca. October 1989, in Goodman 1989, 74).
lives, even though we have families and children. The GD – that’s the
center” (Garcia ca. October 1989, in Goodman 1989, 74).
Why did you end up with such a bad drug problem?
“Self-indulgence, pretty much. I mean, I liked it too much, and the
more you like it, the more it likes you, and pretty soon that’s just about all
there is. I’m glad I’m not involved in it anymore. … But I haven’t
come to any conclusions about drugs at all on any level. I don’t think I’ve
gained any particular insights, but I do know that I’ve always basically been
an addictive personality. That’s just who I am. And so, for me, it’s one of
those things I always have to watch out for” (Goodman 1989, 74).
“Self-indulgence, pretty much. I mean, I liked it too much, and the
more you like it, the more it likes you, and pretty soon that’s just about all
there is. I’m glad I’m not involved in it anymore. … But I haven’t
come to any conclusions about drugs at all on any level. I don’t think I’ve
gained any particular insights, but I do know that I’ve always basically been
an addictive personality. That’s just who I am. And so, for me, it’s one of
those things I always have to watch out for” (Goodman 1989, 74).
Good discussion of Neal Cassady over pp. 74, 118. “He blew
my mind hundreds and thousands of times” (Goodman 1989, 118).
my mind hundreds and thousands of times” (Goodman 1989, 118).
About the kids coming to shows: “Grateful Dead stories are
their drug stories, or war stories. It’s an adventure you can still have in
America, just like Neal on the road. You can’t hop the freights anymore, but
you can chase the Grateful Dead around. You can have all your tires blow out in
some weird town in the Midwest, and you can get hell from strangers. You can
have something that lasts throughout your life as adventures, the times you
took chances. I think that’s essential in anybody’s life, and it’s harder and
harder to do in America. If we’re providing some margin of that possibility,
then that’s great. That’s a nice thing to do” (Goodman 1989, 74).
their drug stories, or war stories. It’s an adventure you can still have in
America, just like Neal on the road. You can’t hop the freights anymore, but
you can chase the Grateful Dead around. You can have all your tires blow out in
some weird town in the Midwest, and you can get hell from strangers. You can
have something that lasts throughout your life as adventures, the times you
took chances. I think that’s essential in anybody’s life, and it’s harder and
harder to do in America. If we’re providing some margin of that possibility,
then that’s great. That’s a nice thing to do” (Goodman 1989, 74).
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